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    sacred Scriptures Season 15 Week 4 "Dual Topics": 143 vs King Prince

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    To Afraid to Love You

    Dear Father,
    I've spoken to you before, always veiled words and queer quotes
    Now I've finally found the strength to converse with a cleared throat
    If I'm gonna be honest, I made thus journey towards you out of sheer hope
    Ignorin all sign if dread, how could I love what I fear most


    So I walk this path, through desert Sun and arctic blasts
    Ever weary due to constant conscious thoughts of wrath
    Yours to be exact
    So even if the heart had played a part in the matter
    Its for want of seeing hearts that passed
    Yet this road is full of so many hurdles it's hard to care who's
    At the end, that's until I see your dark side and start to fear you
    So I'm on the righteous trek, so excited to see the real you
    Can't be blind, even the Wise Men's journey was full of peril
    I feel while serving you I've allowed myself nothing in life
    Remaining loyal to the cause has cost two sons and a wife
    One lost to your ways, the younger one's been slaughtered in hate
    His vision blurred and I fear his heart has corrupted his fate
    Sheltered in faith under your umbrella yet nothing is safe
    Wish you'd cut to the Chase but lack strength to act tough to your face
    Since the day I've be saved I've been afraid to make another mistake
    Dependent and obedient as a whipped pup in a crate
    Your paradise remains my sole dream of an escape
    Hope the elation's worth the trip because the suffering's great
    Regret would come in, if I met the end and saw it led to nothin
    Thinking how I could've sold my soul to be a better husband
    Now I'm all alone in the cold and you warm my bed with nothing
    Surley all this devotion gets me ahead in somethin
    Your light shines when I gather with like minds
    Then once back to my slum village its like you scared to ride by
    So do you truly love me? Or do you fear me like I fear you
    Cause I've been callin and think you should hear me if I hear you
    What I wanna know is if I'll ever truly be near you?
    From your mountain can I see my children with a clear view?
    Should I still fear when I'm near? Are new sins cleared too?
    Or would the gate to your palace hold a plaque listing clear rules?
    I do believe you are infallible, never for a second doubted you
    It's just you weren't the type of dad that I could play around with you
    Count in you, or basically expect anything out of you
    Except to kick my ass if I ever tried to walk out on you...

    Still you birthed me then you raised me to a man
    Now I'm in my final days and like a baby once again
    I need your nurturing had to rock me to sleep as I float through the sand
    Let fear guide me to the ultimate land.
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    Re: sacred Scriptures Season 15 Week 4 "Dual Topics": 143 vs King Prince

    Plead for Insanity
    http://rapbattles.com/showthread.php...=1#post7876152

    I can't remember when it was sunny in November
    Or maybe it's the medical lights I mistaken for fire embers
    In this state it's hard for me to decipher my surrounding
    Cold and lethargic steel walls leave me with stress compounding
    And I am doubting that my parents would give me these perils
    Subtracting the naturality of life and place me in something so sterile
    I yearn in veracity to expand my senses capacity elastically
    Not the way this interface graces the synapses scholastically
    My soul burns for hugs and kisses while this integration persistent
    Edges of my skin feel the casing that protect my existence
    The electrodes subside to let the soul reclaim the point position
    Technology's fallacies are dismissive and reluctantly in remission

    And I dream of weathered Picasso paintings on toast
    Digesting it's artistic flairs snaring the best of what it boast
    Residing in a pink pickled oak tree with candy cane leaves
    I can feel the sugary decay eating at my metal eaves
    Euphoric, grapefruit soda bleeds from cuts made by blades of grass
    Vampiring my curiosity beyond the struts that aid the hourglass.....


    As these dreams separate like reparations for needy Jews
    Compilation of syntax and quadrants are normal process
    The casing grows revising vision only to see in one hue
    Skewing the interpolation of life into binary logic
    De-compartmentalizing what singular search scour
    Sterilizing the stigmata that render feelings human
    The consummate system monitor categorizing each hour
    Denationalizing my soul only leaving a demilitarized numen
    Reverberating a vertigo ebonizing this infernal intertia
    Silent communicants bless my final departure from Minerva

    She grant me one more dream deferred in blurred salts
    Banding rock turtles to sing songs confirming my birth
    Libations come in the form of crimson water with stirred stalks
    Calling for the end, smiling at the decay rotting the hurt
    Passionate of being pure as sun rays and ocean waves
    Washing chocolate drops with out care but motive stays
    For it's the last punch thrown, losing this calamity
    Electronically gripped diodes end the pleads for insanity


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    Re: sacred Scriptures Season 15 Week 4 "Dual Topics": 143 vs King Prince

    King Prince- This felt like a piece from the heart, a man sending a prayer up to his God with a questioning tone to it that made the drop feel like being a witness to someone's internal debate. You gave us insight to his feeling and painted a picture of his history with some well chosen vocab. It felt like the rhyme scheme could've been switched up a bit more, and the pace lulled in the middle but the twist at the end was a big plus and the length of the piece was good.

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    143- A cavalcade of vocab and imagery that felt in tune with the insanity of the title. You had some really slick internals going on, and complex, philosophically driven word choice. But my issue with the piece was that I found it hard to follow at times, it fits that an examination of insanity can be hard to read meaning to but obscurity can alienate an audience as it did me. Maybe I missed something, I don't know.

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    Re: sacred Scriptures Season 15 Week 4 "Dual Topics": 143 vs King Prince

    Quote Originally Posted by King Prince View Post
    To Afraid to Love You

    Dear Father,
    I've spoken to you before, always veiled words and queer quotes
    Now I've finally found the strength to converse with a cleared throat
    If I'm gonna be honest, I made thus journey towards you out of sheer hope
    Ignorin all sign if dread, how could I love what I fear most


    Man. This is a heartfelt opening man. From the title even. 'Too Afraid to Love You' Small typo on the too but whatever. I feel like a lot of us can relate to talking to our fathers this way. It's not the masculine way to show a lot of emotion and speak how we really feel. Just some humorous words that the funniness veils what we're feeling. Laughter as opposed to really confronting the things we'd like to talk about. Queer quotes is good too. Fearing the father and the father's judgment. I really dig that. On top of that, I feel like I can read this in another way. Love of God, even. The Father. Just taking a look at the picture, we could say it's almost like a religious journey.

    So I walk this path, through desert Sun and arctic blasts
    Ever weary due to constant conscious thoughts of wrath
    Yours to be exact
    So even if the heart had played a part in the matter
    Its for want of seeing hearts that passed
    Yet this road is full of so many hurdles it's hard to care who's
    At the end, that's until I see your dark side and start to fear you
    So I'm on the righteous trek, so excited to see the real you
    Can't be blind, even the Wise Men's journey was full of peril
    I feel while serving you I've allowed myself nothing in life
    Remaining loyal to the cause has cost two sons and a wife
    One lost to your ways, the younger one's been slaughtered in hate
    His vision blurred and I fear his heart has corrupted his fate
    Sheltered in faith under your umbrella yet nothing is safe
    Wish you'd cut to the Chase but lack strength to act tough to your face
    Since the day I've be saved I've been afraid to make another mistake

    There it is. Another dual reading where the religious aspect rears its head. First, I like your flow. Some things work better than others, but man the meaning and the story is all there. On top of that 'feeling'. The emotion is strong. I can visualize a son trying to get out of his father's shadow. Not to remain in the path of his sins; the sins of the father are visited upon the sons. And, we have the questioning of faith. A wife lost and another son gone because of his ways. Loyalty and religion perhaps costed them their lives in some way. And the other has lost his way, hate-filled; blinded by his rage he's turned away from that path. This is a really cool representation of faith.

    Dependent and obedient as a whipped pup in a crate
    Your paradise remains my sole dream of an escape
    Hope the elation's worth the trip because the suffering's great
    Regret would come in, if I met the end and saw it led to nothin
    Thinking how I could've sold my soul to be a better husband
    Now I'm all alone in the cold and you warm my bed with nothing
    Surley all this devotion gets me ahead in somethin
    Your light shines when I gather with like minds
    Then once back to my slum village its like you scared to ride by
    So do you truly love me? Or do you fear me like I fear you
    Cause I've been callin and think you should hear me if I hear you
    What I wanna know is if I'll ever truly be near you?
    From your mountain can I see my children with a clear view?
    Should I still fear when I'm near? Are new sins cleared too?
    Or would the gate to your palace hold a plaque listing clear rules?
    I do believe you are infallible, never for a second doubted you
    It's just you weren't the type of dad that I could play around with you
    Count in you, or basically expect anything out of you
    Except to kick my ass if I ever tried to walk out on you...

    Paradise. Heaven. A dream of escape from the cruel world; perhaps the world is hell or perhaps it is purgatory. Again, the father imagery is great. An absentee father in some ways, and the analogy of this relationship to God. Just, real fucking solid and heartfelt. But now the God imagery is even more clearer within this stanza. We can't play with God. We don't see God, but he beats us down if we try to walk out; or so the book says. Down to Hell we go. Seems like an abusive relationship, and I wonder which way your commentary goes; positive or negative.

    Still you birthed me then you raised me to a man
    Now I'm in my final days and like a baby once again
    I need your nurturing had to rock me to sleep as I float through the sand
    Let fear guide me to the ultimate land.


    What a way to leave a sense of grey here. Let 'fear' guide to the land of heaven. That's a disturbing quote if you look at in long enough. Real nice touch to end the piece on. Let's us sit on a shit ton of heavy thoughts.
    Quote Originally Posted by 143 View Post
    Plead for Insanity
    http://rapbattles.com/showthread.php...=1#post7876152

    I can't remember when it was sunny in November
    Or maybe it's the medical lights I mistaken for fire embers
    In this state it's hard for me to decipher my surrounding
    Cold and lethargic steel walls leave me with stress compounding
    And I am doubting that my parents would give me these perils
    Subtracting the naturality of life and place me in something so sterile
    I yearn in veracity to expand my senses capacity elastically
    Not the way this interface graces the synapses scholastically
    My soul burns for hugs and kisses while this integration persistent
    Edges of my skin feel the casing that protect my existence
    The electrodes subside to let the soul reclaim the point position
    Technology's fallacies are dismissive and reluctantly in remission

    Explorations of the mind and insanity? Alright, I'm down. I'm visualizing being in the world of the mental ward patient's head. His thoughts that he would doubt his parents would put him in this place where the surroundings are so cold and sterile as opposed to the color and life he loves. Soul burns for hugs and kisses; that's real nice. He wants love, not this... 'cure' or 'treatment'. Left alone in this barren world of closed walls that protect his existence. Good start, now I want to see more.

    And I dream of weathered Picasso paintings on toast
    Digesting it's artistic flairs snaring the best of what it boast
    Residing in a pink pickled oak tree with candy cane leaves
    I can feel the sugary decay eating at my metal eaves
    Euphoric, grapefruit soda bleeds from cuts made by blades of grass
    Vampiring my curiosity beyond the struts that aid the hourglass.....


    And there it is. Opening us up to the world of crazy, I like the separation of what seems to be his reality and the far-off rabbit hole deep inside the brain. And your imagery is perfect for it. So dream-like, so bizarre. Pink pickled oak tree, candy cane leaves. Shit, it's like the went into the Chocolate Factory. Vampiring the curiosity... sucking it out of him.

    As these dreams separate like reparations for needy Jews
    Compilation of syntax and quadrants are normal process
    The casing grows revising vision only to see in one hue
    Skewing the interpolation of life into binary logic
    De-compartmentalizing what singular search scour
    Sterilizing the stigmata that render feelings human
    The consummate system monitor categorizing each hour
    Denationalizing my soul only leaving a demilitarized numen
    Reverberating a vertigo ebonizing this infernal intertia
    Silent communicants bless my final departure from Minerva

    This new world. This treatment. Sterilization, the growing of the casing. He's becoming locked in those walls. His departure from Minerva (goddess of poetry, music, magic, among many others; and wisdom which seems incredibly fitting here because those that try to 'cure' seem to be standing upon the authority of 'wisdom' yet the treatment doesn't seem to help...) Everything about his colorful soul is taken away. At least that's how I see it. Mechanical, sterile; just like the photo you chose.

    She grant me one more dream deferred in blurred salts
    Banding rock turtles to sing songs confirming my birth
    Libations come in the form of crimson water with stirred stalks
    Calling for the end, smiling at the decay rotting the hurt
    Passionate of being pure as sun rays and ocean waves
    Washing chocolate drops with out care but motive stays
    For it's the last punch thrown, losing this calamity
    Electronically gripped diodes end the pleads for insanity


    I love that you ended with the dream sequence. The man made machine. A mind full of color and emotion or... 'insanity' turned into cold turning gears and metallic sterilization. All in all feels like a hell of a sad ending, and 'ending the pleads for insanity' sounds like it should be a happy ending; but I'm feeling the word 'pleads' here. Begging for insanity. Give me the insanity over the monotonous lifeless gray.

    Excellent work, the both of you. 143 came out with the interesting dynamic of the mental functions, a conversation on insanity and the beauty of human life in relationship to our increasing technological progress; and perhaps how... non-progressive it might be. King Prince with a deeply heartfelt conversation on sons and fathers analogized to the relationship of God and man and the breaking downs of religious faith. In the end, while I feel Prince's more on an emotional level; I think 143 had great concept with a better handling of the structure in terms of rhyme and flow. Not by much, however.
    v/143
    “Those whom life does not cure death will. The world is quite ruthless in selecting between the dream and the reality, even where we will not. Between the wish and the thing the world lies waiting.”

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    Re: sacred Scriptures Season 15 Week 4 "Dual Topics": 143 vs King Prince

    King Prince,
    This was a good piece. Read smooth besides the typos/weird wording that got on my nerves lol. Minus points for that, but besides that I thought this was a nice drop. Might have got a little repetitive/drawn out but I enjoyed it. Dope concept. Seemed like a religious piece at first then it seemed like you were talking to your dad. Not sure if that was on purpose, but I thought that was slick.

    143,
    Def had the vibe of someone in a crazy house from the jump. I liked your take on the topic, though as always I'm not sure what to expect lol. You have a way of writing that you have to dig deeper into to really grasp at. It's risky, which is probably why I normally have trouble with your pieces. But it worked with this one. Still not completely sure what you had in mind when writing, but I've come to my own conclusion after looking at the picture you used in the end. I took it as technology is amazing, but will eventually be our downfall. Dope.

    Vote - 143
    Both had dope drops. 143 out classed this in writing experience though imo. King Prince had spelling and other mistakes that made his piece sloppy when compared to 143s drop. I thought conceptually both were equal. But the execution of the concept goes to 143. Dope battle.

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